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Issues => Suggestions => Topic started by: Danny on March 15, 2012, 01:29:44 AM



Title: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 15, 2012, 01:29:44 AM
Hey guys.

As pointed out by Sev, we seem to get overwhelmed pretty quickly when we have multiple universes running at once. This then leads to the abandonment of that thread/board, example Star Wars.

So in this thread we're going to put all the universes we want to RP in on the table, pick one, bring it up and then stick to it.

The big two we keep tossing around are Star Wars and Mass Effect. There's the recent edition of Pokemon as well. We need to pick one and stick to it till it's over, then move onto the next.

So, cast votes and make suggestions.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: BEB0P on March 15, 2012, 01:53:16 AM
Honestly? I dunno if I should be talking, considering my lacking-ness in Nations from time to time. But, Star Wars seems to be cursed when it comes to us. It dies for one reason or another, it would seem. P=
I say we don't abolish the thought, but wait until we can muster up enough resolve to actually commit to a Star Wars RP.

As for Mass Effect? I'm assuming this is because of the series' most recent and final addition to the main story. For that reason, I vote we hold that off until a reasonable amount of time has passed for us all to complete the series. After that set amount of time has passed, then tell them to read the wiki. I still like the idea of an ME RP, believe me. I'll join myself, too. But for now, I say we hold it off, should my opinion be heeded. Only for now, though.

Pokemon has a great premise going, and the better part of us are more than willing to hop in. My only concern is that there should be a limit. Not to keep certain people out, but because you can't have a huge ass group of like, twelve(clearly exaggerated.) people on the same adventure. Though we could always tackle Pokemon as sub threads and what-not.

As you can see, all of these ideas require a great deal more thinking at this moment. I'm game for whatever the majority chooses.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Spartan-777 on March 15, 2012, 01:57:18 AM
Whenever we get around to Star Wars, I think it should be Old Republic, that way it won't matter if we have a buncha Force-users.

Also, maybe there's some sort of threat that forces our characters to unite for a common purpose, regardless of moral alignment. That way people could have Light or Dark-siders and still be a part of the story. Might make things interesting, having a few people around who previously wanted to kill you.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Specs on March 15, 2012, 02:32:01 AM
I am fine with any of them, my top two choices are Star Wars and Mass Effect I guess, simply because I already RP pokemon. 

I liked our first Mass Effect RP, a shame Are's departure led to its demise, or was it before anyway it failed like the rest of our ventures outside of Halo, minus Nations and Infinitus (my fault)

And yeah Star Wars is cursed XD.



Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 15, 2012, 02:43:56 AM
I agree to the SW thread being set in the Old Republic. That will solve the force sensitive issue, per what you said Sev.

I have an idea for the Mass Effect RP. When we get to that, I would like to head it. It would start before the events of Mass Effect 2.

The pokemon thread sounded like it was coming together nicely.

So which one will we focus on?

 


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Specs on March 15, 2012, 02:47:59 AM
I vote Mass Effect


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: BEB0P on March 15, 2012, 04:50:11 AM
I vote Star Wars. That way one, it will give you, my australian friend, to have more time to think about all the little details for the RP, too.

However I request that we start the Star Wars RP as soon as possible, that way we all have somethign to do and I don't feel like a douche for not posting as often in Nations, heh...

Also, is there a possible way that a jedi can freeze their age for a hella lot of time?


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 15, 2012, 05:39:37 AM
Indi voted for a Mass Effect thread.

I'm leaning towards another SW thread.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Spartan-777 on March 15, 2012, 11:07:24 AM
I'd be up for Star Wars. P:


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Indi on March 16, 2012, 12:47:35 AM
What is this focus nonsense? Focus restricts creativity, I can't work when I'm told what to do. I want to RP what I want to RP when I want to RP it, darn it. :P


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 01:16:52 AM
What is this focus nonsense? Focus restricts creativity, I can't work when I'm told what to do. I want to RP what I want to RP when I want to RP it, darn it. :P

All attempts for other RPs have failed, save Nations. That's because we start one, then another idea pops up so we move to that. We don't have the member strength to keep all the threads running at once. The idea is that we focus on one outside of Halo and Nations, so that it survives to the end. It, in the long run, also gives this site longer life.   


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Indi on March 16, 2012, 02:27:11 AM
I know we can keep two going at least, don't keep it just to one. I want to keep it so that people have other options if they aren't crazy about the current RP. We need to have something for everybody, or we'll end up with less members. :P


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 02:39:51 AM
I don't think you're getting it. I'm not stopping people from making threads and I'm not saying we should focus on Star Wars and nothing but Star Wars. Look at our Left 4 Dead thread, Red vs Blue thread, Star Wars attempts and Mass Effect attempts. Look at Specs' Infinitus. People got distracted and abandoned them, no matter how much planning was involved.

All I'm proposing here is that we focus on one other story at a time so that we can break out of this trend.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Indi on March 16, 2012, 02:57:18 AM
But if what you're saying is true. If we really try to focus on one thread, everything else has even less of a chance of survival. :P


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 03:04:58 AM
No... Halo and Nations are fine. The other threads I mentioned are still open for posting and we can come back to them. We voted on what thread to focus on, and Star Wars took the majority.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Specs on March 16, 2012, 03:22:42 AM
Indi does have a point in we shouldn't restrict people from wanting to RP what they want to RP, however the point Danny makes we are too small and fickle of a bunch to be spread out so much.    


I think if we really want to solve this problem of other RP's failing, then we have to fix all of the  

(And of course I am guilty as those as well, I think the main reason threads have failed is I have been running them D:)

1) Everyone should have an idea of the plot going in, I am not saying tell everyone everything but a general run down on what will be happening will be sufficient.   So people should have an idea what their character is suppose to be doing and stuff.  Sometimes I feel like myself or others are lost and unsure how to proceed.  At the very least the plot of the current thread if you don't want to spoil everything.

2) We give up on them too easily, the old Star Wars RP is quite salvageable.     Infinitus can be if we want, I am sorry I let the ball drop on that one.   ^////^.    If we allow more time for posting, and someone has the desire to keep things going then it will be fine.  

3) Better planning of said threads, I feel like if we have the  entire plots instead of a few threads of a time then they will have a higher success rate.    While running things one or two thread can work (sort of the only instance I know of is Ad Infinitum and well look at the large lapses of activity there.  The threads were great and long).      

4) Can't have the plots dependent too heavily on certain people, we are a small community people are going to get inactive and be busy with things, if we want RP's to survive we need to work around this, and be willing to leave someone behind to keep the plot moving for everyone else.

5)  Cooperation (sort of goes with with everyone knowing what is going on).  Everyone in the thread needs to work and interact with one another.       It isn't just one or two people's show.  As well the plots need to account for everyone.   We only have so many people, shouldn't be too hard.

6) Be willing to experiment with other systems of RP then just our current freeform system. 

Eh that is all I got.






 

 


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Indi on March 16, 2012, 03:24:31 AM
Star Wars only won by one. :P


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 03:29:14 AM
Agreed on all those points. So long as all those things are handled we shouldn't have a problem.

I'm going to stick by my idea though, but if we can achieve all those things we'll be successful in running several major stories.  


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Specs on March 16, 2012, 03:30:49 AM
Aha thanks for making me realize another point Indi ^^

7) We don't need everyone to partake in every RP thread.   I think that is the beauty of the Nation RP.      That you don't have to depend on the group to be on the same page, you just need the other person on the same page :P


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 03:41:57 AM
The Star Wars thread is ready for launch and I'm trying to get Indi to take Mass Effect. Once she's got that and planned it we should be able to have both running at once.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Specs on March 16, 2012, 03:52:16 AM
I am sure both will do fine, as long as we all do our part and contribute.     ^^


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Indi on March 16, 2012, 04:44:37 AM
Something I want to add.
Some of our most successful RPs go back to ad Infinitum actually. The ones where we were running exactly parallel to the actual Halo game. Everything went smooth and we posted very consistently and regularly.
Why? I think mainly because we all had a good idea on where we were and the timeline in which we were working. We had our own little plot, we didn't always know exactly what was going to happen, but we had a general idea of the surrounding events and the setting and pace were solid.
If we could replicate that it could help. (Though we did try that with the Heresy thread, and it went quiet anyway, but it was probably my fault. :P )


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 04:52:01 AM
All the ad infinitum threads worked perfectly because, like you said, we had Halo as a guideline. We didn't have to worry about getting writers block back then because we knew exactly what would happen next. Now we're running an original story and that requires planning, like all original plots do.

And if you look at all our threads that are stalled, you'll see they're all original.

Following a path laid out for us would help, but we've done them all a dozen times. :P


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Specs on March 16, 2012, 04:56:51 AM
I only recall You, Danny, and myself (maybe Sev towards the end) were here for Stigma's reign on Ad Infinitum though.   And ad Infinitum itself, same thing.

But Danny mentioned start RPing Halo from the beginning, why not do that?   Though my only concern is it would end up killing the current Halo RP :(.      If we would rather RP everything from the beginning then continue our current Halo story then fine by me.  

Could the two coexist? Maybe but I just feel like we would have to choose one over the other or it will be a mess.

If we want to restart we should do it soon, so we are caught up by the time Halo 4 is released this year.    




Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 04:59:56 AM

If we want to restart we should do it soon, so we are caught up by the time Halo 4 is released this year.   


Actually, I'd rather Halo 4 come out before we start the reboot, so I'll be hyped to start from the beginning and work our way up. :P

Although, start from the insurrection would be cool.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Specs on March 16, 2012, 05:02:55 AM

If we want to restart we should do it soon, so we are caught up by the time Halo 4 is released this year.   


Actually, I'd rather Halo 4 come out before we start the reboot, so I'll be hyped to start from the beginning and work our way up. :P

Although, start from the insurrection would be cool.

We could go even earlier ;)



Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 05:15:37 AM

If we want to restart we should do it soon, so we are caught up by the time Halo 4 is released this year.   


Actually, I'd rather Halo 4 come out before we start the reboot, so I'll be hyped to start from the beginning and work our way up. :P

Although, start from the insurrection would be cool.

We could go even earlier ;)



All the way back to the Forerunner-Human war, you're suggesting?


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Indi on March 16, 2012, 05:16:36 AM
Having the plot to follow is not what I meant. We did have our own plot, and there were surprises as we followed it, but it ran parallel to the game plot. The game plot gave a sense of timing and setting that I think we could do on our own somehow.
Our current threads have the RPG "there's no rush because nothing actually starts without me, no matter how much they tell me to hurry" feeling. Time gets suspended and we forget about it. Our characters even forget about it, they just keep chugging along through one sequence of events to another with hardly a sense of day or night (admittedly we're in space most of the time, so there is no day and night). But a better sense of time would help.
Just not sure how to go about it. :P


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Specs on March 16, 2012, 05:22:54 AM
Having the plot to follow is not what I meant. We did have our own plot, and there were surprises as we followed it, but it ran parallel to the game plot. The game plot gave a sense of timing and setting that I think we could do on our own somehow.
Our current threads have the RPG "there's no rush because nothing actually starts without me, no matter how much they tell me to hurry" feeling. Time gets suspended and we forget about it. Our characters even forget about it, they just keep chugging along through one sequence of events to another with hardly a sense of day or night (admittedly we're in space most of the time, so there is no day and night). But a better sense of time would help.
Just not sure how to go about it. :P


Oh I get what you are trying to say, we are moving too fast and not giving time for our characters to mingle and relax? As well as getting over fatigue and stuff?   Anyway yeah I think I get what your trying to say '^^




If we want to restart we should do it soon, so we are caught up by the time Halo 4 is released this year.   


Actually, I'd rather Halo 4 come out before we start the reboot, so I'll be hyped to start from the beginning and work our way up. :P

Although, start from the insurrection would be cool.

We could go even earlier ;)



All the way back to the Forerunner-Human war, you're suggesting?


Precisely


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 05:28:22 AM
Having the plot to follow did help, though. But running parallel did create a sense of 'difference' in it, which was very exciting.

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Our current threads have the RPG "there's no rush because nothing actually starts without me, no matter how much they tell me to hurry" feeling. Time gets suspended and we forget about it. Our characters even forget about it, they just keep chugging along through one sequence of events to another with hardly a sense of day or night (admittedly we're in space most of the time, so there is no day and night). But a better sense of time would help.

Yeah, per Specs, do you mean we need more 'chill' threads?


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Precisely


That might be pushing it. :P


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: BEB0P on March 16, 2012, 05:31:10 AM
By recreating an entirely new Halo story that would meld perfectly with the actualy one would kill all of our characters in some way, would it not?


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Specs on March 16, 2012, 05:36:11 AM
Nonsense!  :P

 As cool as it would be, and it would be cool, I believe there is only one person here who would know what they are doing :humble face:  😌 ;P.      

Epic Halo lore, just not in the games....yet.    Apparently Halo 4 will connect to the Forerunner Trilogy and probably Glasslands


And no Mitch i we are talking about in our current arc, and starting a new arc with new characters is just in theory at the moment, apparently to be done closer to Halo 4 time.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 05:41:58 AM
By recreating an entirely new Halo story that would meld perfectly with the actualy one would kill all of our characters in some way, would it not?

Well, possibly. Rebooting the entire story, from the very beginning, would pretty much kill everything we've done after Halo 3. Not that it means we forget everything we've done and I don't mean we do it straight away, I mean when we stop. Because our characters are going to have to stop eventually, if you think about it. :P

So when the story we're doing now is done, that's when we'd start over.

And I mean over. This time, I would like it to be as close to the canon as possible. So that this story would be definitive fanon. Meaning I would like this time around to be lacking in the dozens of Spartan programs we have. xD
But we can debate that when the time comes.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Specs on March 16, 2012, 05:45:35 AM
By recreating an entirely new Halo story that would meld perfectly with the actualy one would kill all of our characters in some way, would it not?

Well, possibly. Rebooting the entire story, from the very beginning, would pretty much kill everything we've done after Halo 3. Not that it means we forget everything we've done and I don't mean we do it straight away, I mean when we stop. Because our characters are going to have to stop eventually, if you think about it. :P

So when the story we're doing now is done, that's when we'd start over.

And I mean over. This time, I would like it to be as close to the canon as possible. So that this story would be definitive fanon. Meaning I would like this time around to be lacking in the dozens of Spartan programs we have. xD
But we can debate that when the time comes.

😱.  😰.  I thought the reboot would be done with a new cast 😭


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: BEB0P on March 16, 2012, 05:49:44 AM
By recreating an entirely new Halo story that would meld perfectly with the actualy one would kill all of our characters in some way, would it not?

Well, possibly. Rebooting the entire story, from the very beginning, would pretty much kill everything we've done after Halo 3. Not that it means we forget everything we've done and I don't mean we do it straight away, I mean when we stop. Because our characters are going to have to stop eventually, if you think about it. :P

So when the story we're doing now is done, that's when we'd start over.

And I mean over. This time, I would like it to be as close to the canon as possible. So that this story would be definitive fanon. Meaning I would like this time around to be lacking in the dozens of Spartan programs we have. xD
But we can debate that when the time comes.


I see what you mean. When the pendulum finnally slows to a stop- and it will stop- out of the ashes comes something old, yet new.

/prophecy talk.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 05:52:07 AM
By recreating an entirely new Halo story that would meld perfectly with the actualy one would kill all of our characters in some way, would it not?

Well, possibly. Rebooting the entire story, from the very beginning, would pretty much kill everything we've done after Halo 3. Not that it means we forget everything we've done and I don't mean we do it straight away, I mean when we stop. Because our characters are going to have to stop eventually, if you think about it. :P

So when the story we're doing now is done, that's when we'd start over.

And I mean over. This time, I would like it to be as close to the canon as possible. So that this story would be definitive fanon. Meaning I would like this time around to be lacking in the dozens of Spartan programs we have. xD
But we can debate that when the time comes.

😱.  😰.  I thought the reboot would be done with a new cast 😭

It's an opportunity for a new cast, but no one has to. I might, but I'll be using Anau again.


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Indi on March 16, 2012, 06:33:59 AM
Back to what I was saying. I don't mean more relaxing time, I just mean more of a sense of time. In that if we say there's five minutes until something happens, we really try to make sure that no one does more than can be done in five minutes, though that sounds nitpicky. 
I just feel like our characters are floating along and there's no discernible passage of time anymore. And maybe correcting that will give more of a sense of realism, pace, and make things more organized. :P


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Danny on March 16, 2012, 09:14:04 AM
Most of these threads are pretty close together with nothing but a slipspace jump between them. I was going for the sense of urgency. I think Specs' next arc should be more to your liking, regarding time. :P


Title: Re: Managing Threads
Post by: Specs on March 17, 2012, 01:53:40 AM
Yeah even without having this in mind things would be slower for the most part, though there will be some instances that will probably require we have threads occurring during back to back, or just a slip space jump away scenarios without a break, nothing I can do but the situation would require it.

If you liked the timing of things  the threads on Ad Infinitum then I think you will like my timing :P

But I will keep in mind that time needs to move at a logical pace for the next arc.